In this episode of Recruiters on the Rise, host Colleen Gallagher sits down with Hayden Hughes, a talent acquisition veteran who has led sourcing strategy at Deloitte, Citi, and AMS where he spent eight years as Managing Director of their Centre of Excellence for Sourcing, Intelligence, and Attraction. Now running his own consultancy and helping the Clinton Health Access Initiative rebuild their talent infrastructure from the ground up, Hayden brings a wealth of perspective on what separates great recruiters from good ones. He shares his philosophy on the "meeting before the meeting," why candidate and hiring manager experience are two sides of the same coin, and why any TA leader who thinks they have a couple of years before AI disrupts their work is fooling themselves. A thought provoking, analogy rich conversation you won't want to miss.
Takeaways:
- Come prepared or don't come at all. The best recruiters show up to intake meetings with market intelligence, silver medalists, and a clear picture of the landscape, much like a great server who recommends the right dish rather than just taking your order. That preparation is what builds trust with hiring managers from the very first conversation.
- Clarity beats complexity in the hiring process. Rather than adding more interview stages to get a better signal, great recruiters give candidates a clear picture of what the company stands for and what it doesn't from the very start. A transparent, well structured process respects candidates' time and leads to better mutual fit.
- If you're waiting on AI, you're already behind. Recruiters who treat AI adoption as something to prepare for later are underestimating how fast the landscape is changing. The ones who will thrive are those who approach it with daily curiosity, lean into the tools, and see it as an opportunity to compound their own value, not a threat to wait out.
- Trust is the foundation of everything. Drawing on Charles H. Green's Trust Equation, Hayden argues that credibility, reliability, and intimacy only work if a recruiter keeps their self orientation in check. Following through on what you say you'll do and keeping the hiring manager's or candidate's needs at the center is what separates transactional recruiters from truly trusted advisors.
- Small gains compound into big results. Whether it's F1 pit crews shaving seconds off a tire change or a cycling team optimizing their riders' sleep, incremental improvements stack up fast. The same applies in recruiting, the little touches in candidate communication, hiring manager prep, and process design are what build a reputation for excellence over time.
Quote of the Show:
- "They're trusting you with that empty chair that they've got. They're trusting you to fill that role with the right person that's gonna make a difference, that's gonna supercharge their team." — Hayden Hughes
Links:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin .com/in/haydenhughes/
- Website: https://www.weareams.com/
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